Episodes

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the rise of revenge quitting, what it is, why it’s seemingly on the rise, and their takes on its effectiveness. 00:00 Intro 01:43 Defining what “revenge quitting” is 04:05 Why 2025 will be the year of revenge quitting 09:30 Why the year of revenge quitting might actually be something else 10:37 Why Kaila loves the idea of revenge quitting 16:35 The truth about revenge quitting 17:28 How Kaila and Kyle have quit jobs in their career 22:51 The import...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the real strategies and steps involved in getting a promotion, from how and when to have the conversation with your boss, to how to get clear for yourself what you really want in the next stage of your career. 00:00 Intro 00:36 Kaila and Kyle’s first promotions 05:38 Kaila and Kyle’s 2025 career goals 07:12 The number one thing you should be doing to set yourself up for success 17:12 More tips for how to get promoted in 2025 19:29 How Kaila and Kyle ...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by Morning Brew’s SVP of People Operations Kate Noel to talk about how to make the most of your year-end performance review—from how to prepare for it to what to expect from it—and what most people forget about this formal evaluation process. 00:00 Intro 00:57 How Morning Brew Inc. handles performance reviews 05:53 The pros and cons of performance reviews 10:18 Advice for one-on-ones 13:48 How to make the most of your performance review 17:56 Talk...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the companies in the UK and in Japan that have been experimenting with the 4-day work week, what the outcomes have been, and whether or not we can expect to see it implemented in the US. Does the 4-day work week actually solve anything? Is it beneficial or detrimental to society as a whole? 00:00 Intro 01:41 The New York Times report on UK businesses piloting the 4-day workweek 06:46 When a 4-day workweek isn’t a fix 11:29 The Tokyo case study of the 4...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the topic of employee surveillance, including the recent invasion of privacy lawsuit against Apple, and how it impacts company culture. Do companies have the right to monitor employee behavior? Is employee surveillance the new normal? And what can employees do to fight back? 00:00 Intro 00:28 Apple lawsuit 05:31 Stats from the ABA on employee surveillance in the US 08:10 Is surveilling employees ethical? 17:19 What it means to “look like you’re workin...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle talk about how to decide whether it’s worth moving for your career, and how they’ve made decisions to move in their own lives. Is it always worth uprooting yourself for your career? And are there particular places that it’s more advantageous to live in than others? 00:00 Intro 01:22 Malcolm Gladwell quote 05:03 What went into Kyle’s decision to move to New York 08:38 A research-backed argument for relocating 13:18 Why location is so important to consider when...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by career advice expert and content creator Hanna Goefft (@hannagetshired) to discuss the pros and cons of job hopping, how it looks to potential employers, and at what stages of your career it can positively or negatively impact your trajectory. 00:00 Intro 01:30 How we’re defining “job hopping” 03:05 Stats on millennial job hopping 04:32 A case against job hopping 07:27 How recruiters view job hopping on a resume 10:38 How to explain layoffs on ...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dive into Allstate’s innovative new hybrid work plan for their 54,000 employees across the country, and discuss the pros and cons of the plan, how it might play out in real time, and whether or not this is the future of work. 00:00 Intro 01:11 Allstate’s new hybrid work plan 08:51 How Allstate’s hybrid work model might change the culture of work entirely 15:54 Are community managers the future of hybrid work? 18:56 How Allstate is handling onboarding 21:33 W...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the wave of big companies (Meta,Target, Fidelity, EY, to name a few) that have made headlines recently for firing employees over small offenses. Are these companies becoming stricter, or are these just layoffs in disguise? And is this a brilliant or a detrimental strategy? 00:00 Intro 01:58 Recent headlines about firings over small offenses 09:02 What we’re calling “sneaky layoffs” 11:29 On severance 16:51 Kyle’s hot take 21:39 Why it would be better...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle talk about how to handle major, distracting life events at work. From wedding planning, to having a baby, to serious illness or injury—major life events happen to all of us. So what’s the best way to handle this without jeopardizing your career? 00:00 Intro 02:43 How Kaila handled planning her wedding while working 07:27 Kyle’s big announcement 10:03 Expectation setting 14:31 Why it might be worth disclosing a negative life event with coworkers 20:05 How Kyl...

This week we’re bringing you another AITA-style episode (since we had so much fun doing it the first time). Listen to hear Kaila and Kyle read and weigh in on your “am I the a**hole?” submissions around your work-specific scenarios. 00:00 Intro 01:00 Scenario #1 - Dishonest Interview 04:11 Scenario #2 - Tattle Tale 10:31 Scenario #3 - Work Bestie Desserted Me 16:03 Scenario #4 - Boss Is Back From Paternity Leave Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last E...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dig into the real meaning of “Founder Mode” (made famous by Brian Chesky and Paul Graham), and whether or not it’s a good thing. Is it just a rebrand of micromanagement? Then, Kaila and Kyle debate whether or not micromanagement can ever be a good thing. 00:00 Intro 00:35 A brief explanation of “Founder Mode” 04:45 Talking micromanagement 06:43 The instances where being a micromanager is okay 09:49 The Delegation Ladder 14:57 The three buckets of micromanage...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dive into the implications of going sober in your career with special guest Andrew Yeung, founder and CEO of Fibe. Can you still network and attend work happy hours when you’ve quit alcohol? What does it mean for climbing the ladder? 00:00 Intro 01:05 What prompted Andrew’s sobriety 05:40 What you miss out on when abstaining from alcohol 10:10 On having to explain your sobriety 15:36 How quitting alcohol impacted Andrew’s lifestyle 18:28 How getting sober im...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by special guest (and Morning Brew social media star) Macy Gilliam to discuss whether Gen Z gets an unfair reputation at work, and address questions like: Does Gen Z overshare? Do they lack respect for office etiquette? Does Gen Z care less, or MORE about money than other generations? 00:00 Intro 02:38 Gen Z stereotype #1 08:40 Resume Builder stat 09:26 Gen Z stereotype #2 16:18 Gen Z stereotype #3 20:28 Gen Z stereotype #4 26:04 Gen Z stereotype...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dig into occupational personality tests—from the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, to the science-backed Big Five—and debate their legitimacy, when they might be useful in the workplace, and whether or not they should be used at all. 00:00 Intro 01:00 Myers-Briggs (MBTI) 03:57 Criticism of the Myers-Briggs 07:28 The CliftonStrengths Assessment 18:11 The Big Five Personality Test (OCEAN) 25:19 A big critique of personality tests 27:29 Tactics New York Times arti...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle tackle the age-old question of: how hard do you have to work to get ahead? Do you ACTUALLY have to put in overtime, or can you have a healthy “work-life balance”? 00:00 Intro 02:54 Stats on workplace boundaries 05:08 Defining what a workplace “boundary” is 06:10 The 60% Rule 08:55 Three things to keep in mind when adopting the 60% rule 16:30 Decoupling number of hours work from impact 18:19 The Eisenhower Matrix 23:27 The “three seasons of work” 29:15 Tac...

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dive into the unspoken rules around Slack, Teams, and email. What is proper etiquette when it comes to professional communication these days? When is email actually necessary in a Slack-driven workplace environment? Plus, award-winning journalist and communication expert Celeste Headlee weighs in on what she thinks the new rules of workplace communication should be. 00:00 Intro 04:30 The issues with instant messaging 10:32 Have Slack and Teams hurt workplace c...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the different styles of mentorship, how to find and secure a career mentor, and why mentorship benefits the mentor as well as the mentee. 00:00 Open 00:19 Intro 03:44 Can a boss be a mentor? 05:14 Defining mentorship 06:03 “Mentorship from afar” 11:00 How to get to an informal mentorship 15:00 Kyle’s advice for how to approach cold-emailing a potential mentor 19:03 The benefits of being a mentor 23:35 Mentorship vs sponsorship 28:27 Tactics Want...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the realities and misconceptions around imposter syndrome, why Kyle has never experienced it, and Kaila’s take on when imposter syndrome becomes a humble brag. 00:00 Open 00:22 Intro 01:07 Defining imposter syndrome 07:13 Stats on the prevalence of imposter syndrome 07:32 Why Kyle has never experienced imposter syndrome 12:35 Kaila’s experience with imposter syndrome 20:43 The people who are actually imposters 22:46 How Kaila overcame feeling like ...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the actual importance of your first 90 days at a new job, what most people get wrong in the first 90 days, and the best tactics for approaching your early days at a new job. 00:00 Open 00:36 Intro 01:36 Kaila and Kyle’s chaotic first 90 days at Morning Brew 06:02 Why the first 90 days are so important at a new job 10:35 Why the first 90 days for managers bringing on a new employee are so important 18:17 Stats on the reasons people leave a job within ...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss whether or not you need to map your career, and what “career mapping” or career planning actually looks like when done effectively. 00:00 Open 00:25 Intro 05:05 How Kaila did a form of “career mapping” early in her career 06:50 What is a productive “career plan”? 13:30 The importance of having a North Star 19:00 How to decide between commitment and optionality 27:01 Tactics Morning Brew’s Career Mapping Toolkit: https://shop.morningbrew.com/product...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dive deep into the ways that the interview process is fundamentally flawed, and share tactics for how to succeed as both an interviewee as well as interviewer. 00:00 Open 00:35 Intro 03:30 Interview stats 10:01 A great interview mindset 12:09 What most job descriptions get wrong 14:17 Easy wins for going into the interview process 17:05 What employers should have prepared for an interview 21:11 Culture fit vs culture add 24:48 Game: good interview questio...

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the real meaning of burnout, when and why it happens, and what to do about it if you find yourself stuck in a cycle of burnout. 00:00 Open 00:24 Intro 06:00 What “burnout” really means 08:25 Stats on burnout 11:00 Misconceptions about burnout 16:35 Why burnout is an environmental problem 26:41 Tactics for handling burnout Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:...